I'm only passing through...
Making a Point
Published on April 17, 2004 By new-age nomad In Blogging
The mind is filled with millions of misconceptions about others, and I'm going to share with you what I feel about a few bloggers on here to prove the point that we don't need to cling to these thoughts, but let them go and actually get to know people and love them, because every person is worthy of love.

This isn't meant to piss anyone off, and if it does, I'm sorry. I still love all of you guys. Oh, and don't defend youself in the comment box. I've already made the point that my opinion doesn't matter, because I don't even really know you guys.

Michael (Imajint): Most of the time I'm stuck in envy of you because of all you've experienced in your short lifetime. I.E: rodeos, skydiving, military, love, learning (college/life). One time a while back, though, you left a comment on Muggaz blog that read, "In order for Muggaz to become a Christian, he would have to admit that drug use is wrong, and he's not ready to do that." Now, Michael, you're very open about your sexual relations with various women, and we all know you're not married yet. I've tried very hard not to judge you, but I think that if you choose to live your life in hypocricy, you shouldn't judge others along the way. I like you Michael. You encourage not only me, but everyone else on Joe and you embrace us without hesitancy. You love music, which is one of the most admirable traits I can think of. You're a wonderful writer, but you write so much b.s. out of your Joeuser addiction that it gets irksome for fellow bloggers to have to sort through all the junk to find something of depth. You're very endulgent, which isn't neccesarily a bad thing, but I think you take it to the extreme sometimes.

Mark (Muggaz): You are so transparent in some of your writing that I'm amazed it's even possible for someone to write that well. We all know you've been hurt in the past, and I think it's because you love completely and make yourself vulnerable. Though you think you are still able to love like that, you aren't. You have a block on your heart now, and that makes me so sad because it's such a beautiful heart. You should really give other people a chance to see it. You have a lot of fun, you love music, and you love people. I won't go into talking about your parents; it's far too personal. I actually believe you when you say the drugs are merely for enhancement, but that doesn't make it right. God may have to break your heart even more than it has been before you turn to him for that enhancement and realize that nothing is about you. You can do nothing on you own.

Macky: Ah, the hopeless romantic. I originally became entranced with you because it was obvious that you wrote for you and no one else. It was like therapy for you, and you never expected to gain a following. But you did. Now, you're loved by lots of people. Like Muggaz, you love completely and you're one of the few people that have learned that the secret to Christianity is not condemning, but loving. It's painfully obvious how much you love your current girlfriend and your past girlfriends. The truth behind your words and the transparency you practice makes your blogs pierce my heart. Your girfriend is a lucky girl.

Sarah (BigDreamer): You're searching; I like that about you. You're trying to expand your mind despite the fact that you are homeschooled and a little sheltered. You know your scripture and don't hesitate to share it with others. You also don't hesitate to share opinions and you don't seem to care how people are going to react when you used "curse words". You're another one I envy for all your talents in music and ranching and whatnot. It does get irksome for me when you constantly spout about religion and scripture as if it will change the hearts of unbelievers. Let me let you in on a little secret: they don't believe what the Bible says. Why would they care what the scripture has to say if they don't believe it in the first place? The only thing we can do really is to show them Christ's love through us.

Thomas (Cann1bal): I don't yet know you well enough to make judgements about your character, but I couldn't leave you out. You embrace ambiguity, and that's not a trait many people share. You seem to have figured out a lot of things it will take the rest of us a while to catch on to.

Nicky: I think that all of us share a bond now because you first initiated friendship to us all. You acknowledged us and wrote about us and now we all feel like a family. You recognize beauty and your blogs always bring a smile to my face.

Anne (Tangled Wishes): I got so excited about the first comment you ever left on my blog. I had been reading your stuff, and was astounded at how open you were. For me, just reading your writing was like venting. I didn't even have to do it myself. I've seen you go through changes in the small time I've been here, and I've noticed a drop in your readers. That upsets me a little because I still love you, and I can't stand people who thrive on anger. You had your anger spouts, and you will again. It's ok to be happy for a while. You're searching for answers. That's not a judgement either, you have said it. You said you don't know if you're a Christian. You're not. If you don't know, you're not. Keep searching though, you'll figure things out.

MadPoet: I'm so glad you joined us. I worry about you though. You take this a little to seriously, and while I'm glad it brings you comfort, you'll need something else to turn to when this, too, fails you...just as everything else of this world will.

Brad: I'm constantly vacilating between despising you and loving you. I think it's possible to feel both at the same time. The way you use knowledge and words is both wonderful and annoying. I think we all wish you'd just come down to earth for a little while. Show us you have a heart; life is not just about statistics and theology. Write something about your family, your wife, your heart, your soul. I'd love to know that stuff.

Ted (Suspeckted): You're the best poet on Joeuser, in my eyes. I see a love of life in you. Like the rest of us, you're just trying to figure things out, and I think you're doing a damn good job of it.

Captain Cornbread: I think you know you irritate me. I can't really say why...you're writing's just not my style. You still have a teenage mindset, and though many would beg to differ, I think I just skipped over most of those stages that teens are known for. Keep writing though, there are people here that enjoy your writing. A teenage mindset can be fun.

If I left anyone out that I normally comment on, let me know and I'll add you to the list and let you know what I think. That is, if you can take it, or if you even care.

I hope you all see my point, and I would be heartbroken if any one of you decided I'm not worth your time anymore.

Trinitie

*Note: My computer erased this 6 times, so I had to take a break and calm down before coming back to it. The original was a little more harsh than the final copy. *Note #2: Dan's not on here because he already knows how I feel about him.

Comments (Page 4)
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on Apr 19, 2004
that was stupid... I digress.

If there is anything i could say to make you stay, I probably would say it... but you are turning it around trying to be the victim here... i am not discussing this on forums anymore Trin... If you want to exist in Muggaz world... you know what to do... If not... have a nice life, i know you will do well.

BAM!!!
on Apr 19, 2004
Madpoet, I wasn't speaking out in anger. I don't want anyone to think I'm taking back any of the things I said, because I'm sick and tired of being fake. I'm simply saying I'm sorry if any feelings were hurt.

Thank you for your kind words, but I'm going. This blogging thing isn't healthy for me. I'm not a person that can handle it; I'm weak.

Muggaz, umm, thanks, I guess. Yeah, I am leaving. I just find it hard not to reply to comments such as your own.

Trinitie
on Apr 19, 2004
Always flattered Trin, thanks a lot.

Interesting to hear an honest read on others...that takes guts.
on Apr 19, 2004
Aww... will you at least return every now and then to give me your opinion? You can go. I won't hold it against you, just say you'll check up on me every now and then still? That's the main reason I respond to what you say. I truly enjoy your opinion Trinitie. Don't make your name (new-age nomad) make too much since. I don't think anyone here wants you to leave. Well, either way... enjoy your life with or without us.

Capt. over and out!
on Apr 19, 2004
Wow. Things have gotten pretty testy here. I hate to go into my psychologizing, but in order for a "family" or a group of any kind to grow, it has to go through a conflict stage which may include disillusionment, etc. This is not a one time thing, but at times it threatens the integrity of the structure, or perhaps rips it apart. The most important thing one can do is to hang in there. It's that old committment idea again. Now I'm not suggesting there is any formal relationship on JoeU or that we have an obligation to stay, but it is an interesting place to practice life. We are certainly fairly open to work through and share our opinions.

I havn't read the article that has bee referred to in the comments, but if it says you're going to leave (not take a break, not fast, not etc.) I will deeply miss you.

T-man
on Apr 19, 2004
Okay. Now I understand what all the fuss was about.

You wrote stuff about other people's blogs.

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If I am not mistaken, JeremyG also said that he was leaving (after a week) in his: "Quest for the top begins..." article.

That was over three months ago, and I think that he's fairly active in here.

Nothing personal JeremyG, blog on...

I was just JeremyG as example to show that threatening to leave isn't necessarily the same thing as leaving. I am curious as to whether this is actually your (trinity's) swan-song or whether it is an "empty threat," or dare I say "affirmation grab."
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I would personally prefer it if you continued blogging. I appreciate your comments when you leave them. I also find myself occasionally reading and commenting on your articles.

If you eventually decide to either stay (or come back after a brief hiatus) I promise that I won't use you as an example in subsequent similar occasions.

That's all,
Chipperprime
on Apr 19, 2004
*Note: My computer erased this 6 times, so I had to take a break and calm down before coming back to it.


maybe you should have taken that as a sign that you really shouldn't post it. Did you ever think of that? Honestly Trin... who the ____ do you think you are?

How can you tell me not to judge Mug, while judging me yourself? How can you fault me for questioning Mug's drug use, and then question it yourself in the very next paragraph? How can you justify writing this filth? don't tell us you love us, and then talk smack about us in the same article. It just doesn't jive.

whatever issues Mug and I had were obviously resolved, and then you feel the need to resurrect something that you weren't even a part of. ?? what's that all about?

you say its cause "you're tired of being fake"... what is that? you just couldn't live another day without telling me that I write so much BS that you have to search thru it to find something of depth? did you feel better after telling me that? did you feel more "honest"?

I know I may very well get flamed for this reply, but I'm prepared for it. You talk about showing "true colors", why don't we just let 'em fly?

Trinitie, You're very mature for your age, no one's going to deny you that. But at the end of the day, you're still a scared 18 year old kid. You've got some great writing skills. You've got a lot going for you...
sometimes I have to question your sincerity though. I think lots of times you just click on people's blogs and leave a generic comment without even reading it... it's like you just want people to know who you are... "Hey look at me"
This latest "Trinitie's leaving JoeUser" article is a prime example. I mean honestly... what a blatant cry for attention. If you want to leave, there's the door. But don't leave just because the fire that you started got too hot. If you want to be honest with all of us, why don't you start by being honest with yourself? What did you HONESTLY expect to gain from writing this article??? that's what I want to know more than anything...
on Apr 19, 2004
GOOD JOB MICHAEL!!! That, my friend, is exactly what I expected to accomplish through writing this blog. HONESTY!!! I mean really, we're all being fake. Because once you start to like someone, and you know they like you, the fakeness creeps in. I couldn't stand it any longer. I'm blunt with people until I start to love them, then I'm become scared of rejection if I tell them what I really think.

I did consider the fact that my computer was actually telling me not to post this, but I strongly felt it needed to be posted. And, it's apparent no one can handle honesty, so I'm moving on.

You're right about me just wanting to let people know I'm here, but it's not a "Look at me" mentality. It's simply offering encouragement. Tenille says we offer what we need, that's our love language.

Now, consider this. These are not new thoughts you have of me. You've felt this way all along. My point? Why didn't you say it before? Why now? I'll tell you why. Because I took the first step and was honest, which gave you the freedom. So in the end, don't you think it was all neccessary?

I'm not leaving because of any fire...though I may have started one. I'm leaving because I feel this is the end of a period I was going through. It's over now. It was fun.

I still love you. Thanks for your honesty.

Trinitie
on Apr 19, 2004
because I'm sick and tired of being fake


Yeah - this is the clincher... Who the devil have i been speaking with???

Want to learn one last lesson from the Mug Man Trin?

Keep it real from the start, because i have no time whatsoever at all for fake and pretentious people... And when you questioned my true colours - well... you questioning my character and itegrity right now is a bit laughable, and i am ever so confident with who I am and what i stand for.

BAM!!!
on Apr 19, 2004
Keeping it real was exactly what I was trying to do.

Trinitie
on Apr 19, 2004
round and round the merry go round....

You try and keep it real by insulting my character??? nice.

BAM!!!

on Apr 19, 2004
Trin~

I wish you wouldn't leave, and that everyone could take a deep breath and not get so easily offended. Can't we all bury the hatchet and start fresh? Can't we all just get along......

JoLynda
on Apr 19, 2004
Now, consider this. These are not new thoughts you have of me. You've felt this way all along. My point? Why didn't you say it before? Why now? I'll tell you why. Because I took the first step and was honest, which gave you the freedom. So in the end, don't you think it was all neccessary?


I thought about this for a while.. trying to decide if you have a valid point or not... this is what I came up with. We have a rule in the military... praise in public, reprimand in private.

if you really felt the need to get this out in the open, and let people know what you "really thought:" of them, then you should have emailed it in on an individual basis... there's no reason to air this dirty laundry out in the open.
on Apr 19, 2004
Thank you kindly for considering.

You also have a point, or course. And again, I'm sorry.

Trinitie
on Apr 20, 2004
This bugs me so much. Trin didn't mean any of this offensively. If you were offended, you should have said "I was hurt by what this said, and it doesn't fit in with what I know of our relationship" and then you should have sought further understanding. Instead, it seems like you were just waiting to get offended. I won't name any names, but some of you surprised me but how fast you shifted aleigence.

If she meant much to you at all, you would have tried to resolve it. Instead you acted like six-year-olds and started pouting. Now I know what some of you are thinking- "you know, she never said anything about you." And you're right. But she has outside of JoeUser, and we worked it out, because that's what friends do. You all owe an apology, not her.

That's all my opinion... take it or leave it.

~Dan
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