What I Think About Ya'll

Making a Point

Published on April 17, 2004 By new-age nomad In Blogging

The mind is filled with millions of misconceptions about others, and I'm going to share with you what I feel about a few bloggers on here to prove the point that we don't need to cling to these thoughts, but let them go and actually get to know people and love them, because every person is worthy of love.

This isn't meant to piss anyone off, and if it does, I'm sorry. I still love all of you guys. Oh, and don't defend youself in the comment box. I've already made the point that my opinion doesn't matter, because I don't even really know you guys.

Michael (Imajint): Most of the time I'm stuck in envy of you because of all you've experienced in your short lifetime. I.E: rodeos, skydiving, military, love, learning (college/life). One time a while back, though, you left a comment on Muggaz blog that read, "In order for Muggaz to become a Christian, he would have to admit that drug use is wrong, and he's not ready to do that." Now, Michael, you're very open about your sexual relations with various women, and we all know you're not married yet. I've tried very hard not to judge you, but I think that if you choose to live your life in hypocricy, you shouldn't judge others along the way. I like you Michael. You encourage not only me, but everyone else on Joe and you embrace us without hesitancy. You love music, which is one of the most admirable traits I can think of. You're a wonderful writer, but you write so much b.s. out of your Joeuser addiction that it gets irksome for fellow bloggers to have to sort through all the junk to find something of depth. You're very endulgent, which isn't neccesarily a bad thing, but I think you take it to the extreme sometimes.

Mark (Muggaz): You are so transparent in some of your writing that I'm amazed it's even possible for someone to write that well. We all know you've been hurt in the past, and I think it's because you love completely and make yourself vulnerable. Though you think you are still able to love like that, you aren't. You have a block on your heart now, and that makes me so sad because it's such a beautiful heart. You should really give other people a chance to see it. You have a lot of fun, you love music, and you love people. I won't go into talking about your parents; it's far too personal. I actually believe you when you say the drugs are merely for enhancement, but that doesn't make it right. God may have to break your heart even more than it has been before you turn to him for that enhancement and realize that nothing is about you. You can do nothing on you own.

Macky: Ah, the hopeless romantic. I originally became entranced with you because it was obvious that you wrote for you and no one else. It was like therapy for you, and you never expected to gain a following. But you did. Now, you're loved by lots of people. Like Muggaz, you love completely and you're one of the few people that have learned that the secret to Christianity is not condemning, but loving. It's painfully obvious how much you love your current girlfriend and your past girlfriends. The truth behind your words and the transparency you practice makes your blogs pierce my heart. Your girfriend is a lucky girl.

Sarah (BigDreamer): You're searching; I like that about you. You're trying to expand your mind despite the fact that you are homeschooled and a little sheltered. You know your scripture and don't hesitate to share it with others. You also don't hesitate to share opinions and you don't seem to care how people are going to react when you used "curse words". You're another one I envy for all your talents in music and ranching and whatnot. It does get irksome for me when you constantly spout about religion and scripture as if it will change the hearts of unbelievers. Let me let you in on a little secret: they don't believe what the Bible says. Why would they care what the scripture has to say if they don't believe it in the first place? The only thing we can do really is to show them Christ's love through us.

Thomas (Cann1bal): I don't yet know you well enough to make judgements about your character, but I couldn't leave you out. You embrace ambiguity, and that's not a trait many people share. You seem to have figured out a lot of things it will take the rest of us a while to catch on to.

Nicky: I think that all of us share a bond now because you first initiated friendship to us all. You acknowledged us and wrote about us and now we all feel like a family. You recognize beauty and your blogs always bring a smile to my face.

Anne (Tangled Wishes): I got so excited about the first comment you ever left on my blog. I had been reading your stuff, and was astounded at how open you were. For me, just reading your writing was like venting. I didn't even have to do it myself. I've seen you go through changes in the small time I've been here, and I've noticed a drop in your readers. That upsets me a little because I still love you, and I can't stand people who thrive on anger. You had your anger spouts, and you will again. It's ok to be happy for a while. You're searching for answers. That's not a judgement either, you have said it. You said you don't know if you're a Christian. You're not. If you don't know, you're not. Keep searching though, you'll figure things out.

MadPoet: I'm so glad you joined us. I worry about you though. You take this a little to seriously, and while I'm glad it brings you comfort, you'll need something else to turn to when this, too, fails you...just as everything else of this world will.

Brad: I'm constantly vacilating between despising you and loving you. I think it's possible to feel both at the same time. The way you use knowledge and words is both wonderful and annoying. I think we all wish you'd just come down to earth for a little while. Show us you have a heart; life is not just about statistics and theology. Write something about your family, your wife, your heart, your soul. I'd love to know that stuff.

Ted (Suspeckted): You're the best poet on Joeuser, in my eyes. I see a love of life in you. Like the rest of us, you're just trying to figure things out, and I think you're doing a damn good job of it.

Captain Cornbread: I think you know you irritate me. I can't really say why...you're writing's just not my style. You still have a teenage mindset, and though many would beg to differ, I think I just skipped over most of those stages that teens are known for. Keep writing though, there are people here that enjoy your writing. A teenage mindset can be fun.

If I left anyone out that I normally comment on, let me know and I'll add you to the list and let you know what I think. That is, if you can take it, or if you even care.

I hope you all see my point, and I would be heartbroken if any one of you decided I'm not worth your time anymore.

Trinitie

*Note: My computer erased this 6 times, so I had to take a break and calm down before coming back to it. The original was a little more harsh than the final copy. *Note #2: Dan's not on here because he already knows how I feel about him.

Comments (Page 5)

Muggaz

on Apr 20, 2004

Now I know what some of you are thinking- "you know, she never said anything about you." And you're right. But she has outside of JoeUser, and we worked it out, because that's what friends do.

Shut up now.

We aren't good enough *friends* to discuss this outside of JU, so good ol' Trin has to tell everyone in the whole world what she thinks of us... I have built my bridge mate... but maybe you should try and see where MJ and I were coming from before you put in you 0.02c - And if i am one of the accused of shifting aleigence, may i point you to my true colours article... If this is your perception, fair enough.

There are so many levels of friendship mate... Friends do work stuff out, but i am only a *JU* friend, and hanging out here was too much for Trin, and i wasn't taking it to the next level, because I had no oppurtunity. If Trin wants to work it out, she knows what to do... Dont talk about her not meaning anything to us mate... she turned her back.

I know you put up with that kind fo crap, but i dont.

BAM!!!

Dan Kaschel

on Apr 20, 2004

"Shut up now."

Wrong way to start a comment on anybody's site but your own. If you can get Trin to ask me to shut up, I will never post on her site again. But I don't think it's going to happen, so don't get your hopes up too much.

I respect your right to ditch friends at the drop of hat- or the drop of a remark you don't agree with- but I really do think Trin's right. You're being a prick, and even those who applaud Trinitie's exit from the JoeUser stage will likely agree with me.

~Dan

MadPoet41

on Apr 20, 2004

Shut up now.

Dan~I really think you should pay close attention to Muggaz wise words here. We really don't need to be opening up this Pandora's Box all over again. MOST of us are trying to forget about it, and move forward. Trin said some extremely hurtful things to folks. And she did it in a very public fashion. And several people felt that what she said and did was unfair (myself included). Now I understand that she is your friend, and you are naturally gonna feel protective of her. That actually shows me that you are quite loyal in your close friendships, and that's a good way to be.

But you simply cannot suggest to folks that they don't have a right to be hurt or offended. It's a bit inappropriate Dan. And I don't want to launch into a heavy duty criticism of you here now. Believe it or not~I am trying to be a little bit more neutral than that (Dude, I actually left you a thank you note over there on my Birthday blog~for the recent compliment you paid me...) So why don't you just drop this thing ASAP, and let it fade into the past? People need time. This is all still too recent and fresh. Just take a deep breath, and leave this one alone for the time being (anyway). We don't wanna make the situation any worse than it already has become (IMO). Muggaz~thanks for thinking of just the right words to say. I don't know how you always do it~but you are like the voice of reason here at JU. YOU always tell it like it IS! And I think that is so totally cool! BAM!!!

~MadPoet

imajinit

on Apr 20, 2004

If you were offended, you should have said "I was hurt by what this said, and it doesn't fit in with what I know of our relationship" and then you should have sought further understanding.

ok, so let me get this straight... we're supposed to react to her "holier than thou" comments by being humble and quietly telling her that we were offended? We're supposed to "seek further understanding"? Are we supposed to show her kindness?

Where was her kindness in airing these grievances publicly?

But she has outside of JoeUser, and we worked it out, because that's what friends do.

Our Point Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "She has OUTSIDE OF JOEUSER"... what an amazing concept... Even more amazing is the fact that this mutual "Friend" felt it was perfectly ok to flame us in public, but not to show the same treatment to her beloved Dan...

I respect you Dan... I think you are a good dude. But I have to disagree with you on this one. I'm not so cold hearted that I can or will hold a grudge against someone. I have forgiven Trinitie for offending me, because life is too short to stay angry over something so trivial. She apologized, and I let it go...

I will however keep my distance from her for a while, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Where I come from you just don't flame your friends like that in front of everyone and then just expect 'em to automatically forgive and forget... it doesn't matter if we're talking about online or in everyday life...

Muggaz

on Apr 20, 2004

Sorry about the Shut Up...

Before you comment again, please re-read this thread... and the Trin is leaving JU one...

I haven't ditched anyone bro... It's not my style. It would be apparent that you and our little friend have been operating oblivious to my style the whole time... and dont turn this to and us vs Muggaz... because you dont have a chance bro.

After you have read all of mine and hers comments, sans your obvious bias, and if you still think i am the bad guy here... well, we have an issue.

BAM!!!

imajinit

on Apr 20, 2004

Imajinit says:

I'm not so cold hearted that I can or will hold a grudge against someone. I have forgiven Trinitie for offending me, because life is too short to stay angry over something so trivial. She apologized, and I let it go...

Muggaz says:

I haven't ditched anyone bro... It's not my style

posted 4 seconds apart... Great minds think alike, what can we say?

shadesofgrey

on Apr 20, 2004

I respect your right to ditch friends at the drop of hat- or the drop of a remark you don't agree with- but I really do think Trin's right. You're being a prick, and even those who applaud Trinitie's exit from the JoeUser stage will likely agree with me.

I don't know why I feel the need to weigh in here as this has nothing to do with me, but seeing as how it is aired on every thread, I'm adding my Ps and Qs. I'm not applauding anyone's exit but Dan I think you are being awfully harsh with Muggaz. I don't think he's the one that walked away--therefore you can not really say he ditched the friendship.

But more importantly, airing this kind of laundry on a public forum isn't the way friends treat each other--heck, it shouldn't be the way anyone treats each other. There's a certain amount of respect that should be inherent in any friendship, and it wasn't displayed here.

This entire thread/story is harks back to highschool when things were stated for effect and drama was created to pass the time. When I was in highschool and dealing with the ever-present drama of life, someone told me this story (I'm making it much shorter): After hearing his son say something nasty, a father gave his son a hammer and told him to nail a bunch of nails into a fence. When the boy finished, his father told him to take them out. Seeing the fence with all the nail holes spotted all over it, the boy asked his father why he was made to do such a thing. The father replied, "every time you say something hurtful, you are driving a nail into the fence, when you apologize you are taking the nail out. But there will always be the hole, or the scar of your words, and there is nothing that you can do to change that. It's very important to weigh your words carefully before you use them." Even though the blog was prefaced with a disclaimer, and Trinitie usually adds "I love you" at the end, the hurtful words are still there--and they can't be taken back.

messybuu

on Apr 20, 2004

When a conflict arises in my life, I always ask myself: "What would Kakarot do?" (I know he goes by Goku, but the K was already there) I think Goku would remember to have strength not only physically, but mentally as well, and not to say or do anything that he would regret later. It is how one handles the pain that determines his or her strength. Either one can use it to destroy relationships that empower them, or they could grow stronger and become a Super Saiyan.
In other words, don't let pride, pain, or anger ruin any friendships that make your life even minutely better. Whether you've said something stupid or overreacted doesn't matter. If you really care about the other person, you won't let such a minor grievance destroy the relationship.

Super Saiyan 4 is the End of Evolution!

wnx_decoy

on Apr 20, 2004

"What would Kakarot do?"

What do you mean, what would he do? He'd use a khamehameha wave on anyone in his way!

Where was her kindness in airing these grievances publicly?

I think you guys are getting a little too into this arguement. Of course, I'm gonna choice a side if this keeps up but for now I think what I'm gonna say is going somewhat for and against you guys. Trinitie was just trying to say what she thought about some of us and I respect that. I've done stuff like that. I just don't see all the bad things she catches. Maybe I'm just naive but even if I am I'm still going to look at things that way. I honestly, in a way, encouraged people to say hurtful things to me just so I don' t get sucked in by the kindness that I don't deserve. She was willing to say what she thought, just like Muggaz and imajinit and Dan. You three need to just calm down. Everything will be alright.

Well, that was too much kindness for some of you wan't it? Well, you see... she was a bit too harsh on this one and she said she didn't want you guys talking about how upset you were. I made a comment but I was, IMO, clearly joking around about what I said. Now Trinitie didn't leave us with much explanation as to why she felt like posting this article but I don't think she was expecting this to be one of her last articles.

You guys jumping down each other's throughts for either not liking what she said her feeling she had the right of way to say what she did. That's what seems to pushed her away from us. I liked getting her opinion on my articles. (Speaking of which, Dan, could you ask her to check some of my stuff out again sometime~ if you see her?)

Now... I want you guys to cyber hug and get over it.

Capt. over and out!

new-age nomad

on Apr 20, 2004

""""but I don't think she was expecting this to be one of her last articles"""""

Actually, I was expecting it to be one of my last.

Trinitie

Dan Kaschel

on Apr 20, 2004

Several people warned me that I would get this response if I defended Trinitie.

Imajinit, I never would have expected you to pull out the "but she started it!" defense. Her actions are no excuse for yours. MadPoet, that was my first comment. It wasn't like I was trying to rub something in that I'd already said. Muggaz, I read everything by her, including the replies to her articles. Your attitude sucks, just like it always does with relational issues- you're too willing to be jaded and close up. I like you, a million times I like you, but I don't like your "the world is out to get me" mentality that turns everything into a popularity contest. This isn't us vs you or even me vs you. In fact, this has relatively little to do with you.

Cornbread, for once we concur. Cyberhugs for all.

~Dan

Muggaz

on Apr 21, 2004

Dan,

If you think I have a "World is out to get me attitude" It's like i said before... you have been totally oblivious to who i am for the last 5 months.

The world isn't out to get me... I am out to take on the world... There is a massive difference that you obviously don't recognise.

Its a shame, because I see right now what Trin left for, people will never understand me from words - but am i about to leave and disregard all the friendships I have made? No. Will I continue to Blog for the initial reasons I joined JU? Yes.

Yes, I am Jaded, when it comes to personal relationships with females... but how I Love my friends Dan, how I Love my friends. My friends are everything to me... I am a little surprised and hurt that you, nor Trin picked up on that.

Meh.. what am I gonna do...

BAM!!!

Dan Kaschel

on Apr 21, 2004

"The world isn't out to get me... I am out to take on the world... There is a massive difference that you obviously don't recognise."

I recognise the difference, but I think that's only your bravado talking. Your actions have always (to me at least) indicated a sort of victim complex.

~Dan

Muggaz

on Apr 21, 2004

Shows what you know...

I would be interested to know if others think it is only my bravado... I hate to tell you this Dan, but you are mistaken... I wonder what it is about you that makes you think differently of me... My other JU *friends* have all categorically stood behind me in their support... they know i am the real deal... I suppose you have problems admitting you are wrong...

I aint no victim dude.

BAM!!!

new-age nomad

on Apr 21, 2004

Just stop.

Trinitie

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